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瑞典和瑞士同意共同開發新「鷹獅」
本帖最後由 MightyDragon 於 2012-10-11 08:21 AM 編輯瑞典的Saab生產的鷹獅E/F竟能以「天價」賣給瑞士？這價位甚至比更重型的殲-10和F-16C/D都要昂貴！原來根本的原因是瑞典和瑞士已同意「共同開發」鷹獅，即「所賺取的利潤」可以兩家對分，「表面的售價」當然可以標高一兩個價位 {:3:} 事實上鷹獅E/F以其F-5、IDF的大小，竟同時有裝載大量武的能力、短距起降和裝有先進的有源相陣控雷達，戰力比IDF之流高出四至五倍！有這價位其實亦是很合理的...
Source: AINonline by Chris Pocock
August 31, 2012, 10:00 AM
Sweden and Switzerland have reached agreement on sharing the cost to develop and introduce the next-generation version of the Saab Gripen fighter. The Swedish defense ministry said there are good opportunities for synergies, including training, maintenance and future upgrades. The Swiss Air Force selected the Gripen last November, in preference to the Dassault Rafale and Eurofighter Typhoon.
Sweden now says it will buy “40 to 60” next-generation Gripen E/Fs, to replace the current fleet of approximately 100 C/D versions, but the new aircraft would not be operational until 2023, and would serve for 20 years. Switzerland has targeted an initial operational capability of 2018. The Gripens are supposed to replace aging F-5 fighters.
The Swedish defense ministry dismisses speculation that it can afford the new Gripens only if it makes cuts elsewhere in the armed forces. It justifies the acquisition plan in terms of Swedish jobs, exports and research and development. The Swedish government is proposing to increase the defense budget by $300 million over the next 10 years, to help pay for the new jets. Switzerland said last year that it would pay $3.4 billion for its Gripen package of 22 aircraft. Sweden will continue to be one of the few countries in the world with the capacity and know-how for the production of advanced fighter aircraft, the defense ministry noted.
Saab says that a tender for the new aircraft has been submitted to the Swedish government, and that it looks forward to negotiating the order. The Gripen is designed to cope with “existing and future threats and to keep operational costs low compared with its competitors,” the company said. Elements of the new-generation Gripen, including the Selex-Galileo Raven AESA radar, are already flying on a prototype converted from a Gripen D.
...<div class='locked'><em>瀏覽完整內容，請先 <a href='member.php?mod=register'>註冊</a> 或 <a href='javascript:;' onclick="lsSubmit()">登入會員</a></em></div><div></div> 本帖最後由 Mo★Cheers 於 2012-9-2 01:01 PM 編輯
鷹獅E/F 30~40台被打掉
瑞士軍方應該會心痛吧{:45:}
北約的軍事實力本來就不可忽視
不過我覺得歐洲EF2000比較好
雖然這兩台都跟第4代戰機有些差距 其實JAS-39的載重, 航程和短距起降優勢
也是受惠於較IDF先進的機身氣動設計
(但IDF其實是JAS-39同一時期的產品......)
另外,JAS-39的相控陣雷達
具體積小功率少耗電低特性
不失為輕型戰機雷達發展方向 我覺得台灣也可以湊一腳，畢竟美國的戰績好雖好，但有些地方反而不如JAS-39的好@@<br><br><br><br><br><div></div> 台灣如果想加入共同開發 因該也沒有多少技術可以貢獻了 台灣國防一像都是買的比較多
研發少之又少 看來瑞典的戰機研發實力也不能小看喔
不會比歐洲其他國家的戰機還要來的差喔 台灣如果能有這種技術就好了.... 我們的IDF..有點慘.. 名字很難取 發表於 2012-9-2 01:08 PM static/image/common/back.gif
北約的軍事實力本來就不可忽視
不過我覺得歐洲EF2000比較好
雖然這兩台都跟第4代戰機有些差距 ...
我到覺得不能這樣比較,個人認為啦,拿ef2000和jas39比較,感覺像拿f-15和f-16比較,他們各有優點,不如說看國家需求 也許台灣應該也買鷹獅
然後與Saab合作
然後合作生產
接著變成亞太地區鷹獅的仲介商和生產基地<br><br><br><br><br><div></div> 這樣好的戰機用廢鐵名義買回台灣來組幾中隊回來吧 反正都是放再山裡備戰戰 只是希望某些有在研發隱型戰機及航母樣樣都是第一的大國別又酸說這戰機怎樣有怎樣的爛才好 yastern 發表於 2012-9-2 07:33 PM static/image/common/back.gif
這樣好的戰機用廢鐵名義買回台灣來組幾中隊回來吧 反正都是放再山裡備戰戰 只是希望某些有在研發隱型戰機及 ...
夢想「鷹獅」以廢鐵價賣到台灣，怕且亦可期待F-22以廢膠價賣到台灣，又或將柏克級神盾艦以廢紙價賣到台灣 {:3:}...<div class='locked'><em>瀏覽完整內容，請先 <a href='member.php?mod=register'>註冊</a> 或 <a href='javascript:;' onclick="lsSubmit()">登入會員</a></em></div> 沒有什麼好意外的
歐洲的軍火研發遠比台灣先進多了
畢竟他們的軍火可以出口
廠商自然願意投入大筆經費做升級或研發新產品
所以你不必笑台灣
國情不同罷了
"The Swedish defense ministry dismisses speculation that it can afford the new Gripens only if it makes cuts elsewhere in the armed forces"
為什麼會這樣說?是預算吃緊?還是另有原因?不會撥出新的款項嗎? 就算是台灣想買
對方也不敢賣
畢竟大陸民間的消費力
一直是歐洲國家所需要的
因此他們根本不敢得罪大陸<br><br><br><br><br><div></div>
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